The Related Suttas Collection 11.5

Chapter One

Victory by Good Speech

At Sāvatthī.

“Once upon a time, bhikkhus, a battle was fought between the gods and the demons.

Then Vepacitti, lord of demons, said to Sakka, lord of gods, ‘Lord of gods, let there be victory by fine words!’

‘Vepacitti, let there be victory by fine words!’

Then the gods and the demons appointed a panel of judges, saying, ‘These will understand our good and bad statements.’

Then Vepacitti, lord of demons, said to Sakka, lord of gods, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’

When he said this, Sakka said to him, ‘Vepacitti, you are the elder god here. Recite a verse.’

So Vepacitti recited this verse:

‘Fools would vent even more if there’s no-one to put a stop to them. So an intelligent person should stop a fool with forceful punishment.’

The demons applauded Vepacitti’s verse, while the gods kept silent.

Then Vepacitti said to Sakka, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’ So Sakka recited this verse:

‘I think that this is the only way to put a stop to a fool, when you know that the other is upset, be mindful and stay calm.’

The gods applauded Sakka’s verse, while the demons kept silent.

Then Sakka said to Vepacitti, ‘Vepacitti, recite a verse!’ So Vepacitti recited this verse:

‘I see this fault, Vāsava, in just being patient. When a fool thinks, “He puts up with me out of fear,” the idiot will go after you even harder, like a cow chasing someone who runs away.’

The demons applauded Vepacitti’s verse, while the gods kept silent.

Then Vepacitti said to Sakka, ‘Lord of gods, recite a verse!’ So Sakka recited this verse:

‘Let him think this if he wishes, or not—“He puts up with me out of fear.” Of goals culminating in one’s own good, none better than patience is found.

When a strong person puts up with a weakling, they call that the ultimate patience, for a weakling must always be patient.

The strength of folly is really just weakness, they say. But no-one can challenge a person who’s strong, guarded by the teaching.

When you get angry at an angry person you just make things worse for yourself. When you don’t get angry at an angry person you win a battle hard to win.

When you know that the other is angry, you act for the good of both yourself and the other if you’re mindful and stay calm.

People unfamiliar with the teaching consider one who heals both oneself and the other to be a fool.’

The gods applauded Sakka’s verses, while the demons kept silent.

Then the panel of judges consisting of both gods and demons said this, ‘The verses spoken by Vepacitti evoke punishment and violence. That’s how you get arguments, quarrels, and disputes. The verses spoken by Sakka don’t evoke punishment and violence. That’s how you stay free of arguments, quarrels, and disputes.

Sakka, lord of gods, wins victory by fine words!’

And that’s how Sakka came to win victory by fine words.”